tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2566473233212216243.post285818954861514774..comments2023-04-17T10:03:32.334-04:00Comments on HerHerbivore: 5 things vegans do that irk meJohannahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14402626540147258673noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2566473233212216243.post-54993817921433200952015-08-04T18:34:33.775-04:002015-08-04T18:34:33.775-04:00right? and I go back and forth on the honey issue....right? and I go back and forth on the honey issue. I've read enough things against it that I don't eat it personally, but it doesn't bother me if another vegan does and still calls themselves vegan. I'm not going to go all vegan police on them and tell them they can't have it or that they're not vegan if they do. It's sort of a grey area. And if someone eats honey but no other animal products they're doing a whole lot more good for the planet than someone who eats meat and dairy and eggsSandra03https://www.blogger.com/profile/12454658140148517902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2566473233212216243.post-17792875919571260812015-08-04T17:21:34.458-04:002015-08-04T17:21:34.458-04:00Sandra, Yes! Omnivore completely makes more sense ...Sandra, Yes! Omnivore completely makes more sense than Carnivore! <3 Johannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402626540147258673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2566473233212216243.post-67714065581863714552015-08-04T16:21:05.912-04:002015-08-04T16:21:05.912-04:00what's wrong with omnivores? Since that what m...what's wrong with omnivores? Since that what most people are. How many people do you know who eat ONLY meat? pfft carnivores... the only carnivore I know is my catSandra03https://www.blogger.com/profile/12454658140148517902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2566473233212216243.post-13428425387234478192015-08-04T12:50:39.963-04:002015-08-04T12:50:39.963-04:00First, I totally understand why you will disagree ...First, I totally understand why you will disagree with me on the honey issue, and I will never claim that honey is strictly speaking a vegan product. But I, a self-proclaimed vegan, will consume it on occasion. I will never buy honey from a big corporation that whores out their bees to non-organic farms, as is common in the United States. That is completely evil. On the other hand, local bee keepers, who have ethical apiaries all over the Unites States and Canada are caretakers of an incredibly important part of our planet and the one and only little critter that keeps all our awesome vegan food growing. The local honey farm that I get my honey from - which, to be honest, I seldom eat, but feed to the voracious VOMD now and then - does not over-harvest, does not use harmful chemicals to sedate the bees, and for all intents and purposes, is ethical, though you may disagree. Now, do I think that bees are amazing? Yes. Do I think that they deserve respect and love and compassion just as much as any other living creature? Yes. Do I limit my intake of even local honey products and ensure that I never purchase products from the grocery store that contain honey to ensure I am not buying into bee slavery? Also yes. Am I the only one who thinks that we can call ourselves vegan and still consume honey? Absolutely not. There's a great little article from a vegan beekeeper in New York that you can check out: http://www.elephantjournal.com/2012/01/beekeeping-and-the-ethical-vegan-will-curley/ <br /><br />I will add, though, that driving a car probably kills more bugs than ethical beekeeping, but perhaps that is a conversation for another day.<br /><br />That said, you don't have to agree with me, and I completely respect that we have different world-views. <br /><br />As for what we should call non-vegans, how about non-vegans? Carnivores are creatures that do and can subsist entirely on animal flesh. Human beings are not and have never been carnivores. In fact, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that we are fruitarians by nature and evolved to survive best on a diet of fruit and seeds. So, for me, calling meat eaters carnivores is just giving them more wood for their self-righteous, pseudo scientific, "evolution" argument fire. I think using non-vegans properly gets across that veganism is the right way, and anyone who eats meat (and dairy, and eggs etc.) is...non. <br /><br />Thanks for the comment!<br />Johannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14402626540147258673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2566473233212216243.post-15441638191522892152015-08-04T11:52:48.464-04:002015-08-04T11:52:48.464-04:00Oh honey so how do you suggest we call carnivores?...Oh honey so how do you suggest we call carnivores? And honey is vegan? Wow Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620356410006734054noreply@blogger.com